Citation style problem: inconsistent handling of editors

thomashuehn

Hi,

I'm using the citation style "Theologisches Seminar Adelshofen - Harvard (Deutsch)" from 2/10/2021.

I have many entries that are book sections with book editors and a chapter author.But one of them is acting differently.

From my Word file:

Franke, Guido 2001.Richtungen und Perspektiven der Kompetenzforschung.Franke, Guido (Hg.).Komplexität und Kompetenz.Ausgewählte Fragen der Kompetenzforschung., 9–51.

Rohs, Matthias 2020.Informelles Lernen und berufliche Bildung.In: Arnold, Rolf, Lipsmeier, Antonius & Rohs, Matthias (Hg.).Handbuch Berufsbil-dung.441–454.

Rohs has the "In:", Franke doesn't.

188BET靠谱吗I have attached Zotero's metadata from both.What is the difference there?

Unfortunately, I don't really understand the CSL file, shouldn't the line
text term="in" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix=":"/>
within
else-if type="chapter paper-conference" match="any">
catch this?188BET靠谱吗Book Section in Zotero is chapter in CSL, isn't it?

Thanks!
Thomas

adamsmith

I don't see how the style could produce a citation with an editor and with "In: " for a book section item in that citation style.188BET靠谱吗What happens when you use "Create Bibliography for selected items" in Zotero, not the Word add-on?
188BET靠谱吗If that produces the correct output, I'd guess that the item you cite in Word isn't actually the same item (the incorrect metadata might be saved in the document if it's not in your Zotero library)

thomashuehn

I'm getting:

Franke, Guido 2001.Richtungen und Perspektiven der Kompetenzforschung.Franke, Guido (Hg.).Komplexität und Kompetenz.Ausgewählte Fragen der Kompetenzforschung., 9–51.

Even though I select the Adelshofen style in
188BET靠谱吗https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u9221376/3w8xcstfi8py0xhdlvih.png

I think it's not because chapter author and book editor are the same, but I'll have to experiment some more.

A fresh, empty Word document with only an inline citation to Franke and "Add/Edit Bibliography" yields the same behaviour.

As an aside: Where can the metadata be stored in Word?188BET靠谱吗My mental model was that the Add-on communicates with the running Zotero app and has no "own" data.Does it cache items' metadata entries?

thomashuehn

I found out that another Harvard style (Hochschule Bonn-Rhein-Sieg) has a different problem with this entry: it omits the comma after "(Hrsg.)", running in the following text.

In the end I deleted all (three) chapter entries I had from that book and recreated them not with "Create Book Section", but manually, and the problems in both styles went away.

188BET靠谱吗I'd assume there was a non-printable character at the end of the editor's name that confuses Zotero's parser, but I couldn't confirm that.When I retyped that name in the items the problem persisted.

Strange.