188BET靠谱吗Zotfile and next version of zotero

smokingduck

188BET靠谱吗I'm starting a new workflow combining devonthink and zotero.188BET靠谱吗I use Zotero for its superior capturing abilities, and for citing while I write.All attachments are moved using zotfile to a onedrive folder, and Devonthink indexes that folder - I use Devonthink for its organisation and search functions.It all seems to work smoothly, includign syncing across two macs and an ipad.188BET靠谱吗But seeing as zotfile does not seem to be regularly maintained anymore, I'm worried that my system might not be future-proof, especially when a new version of zotero is released.

188BET靠谱吗Should I be worried about this, or will there always be a simple way of moving zotero attachments into my folder of choice?

tim820

188BET靠谱吗While Zotfile works in Zotero v6, its documentation has not been maintained as you note.188BET靠谱吗And it does not work in Zotero v7, currently in beta.188BET靠谱吗There are several new plugins capable of Zotfile's functionality in Zotero v7 (with the exception of Send To Tablet*).Those plugins are currently attanger or zotmoov.188BET靠谱吗People currently using the Zotero v7 beta are already using those plugins.Once v7 is officially released, the many other Zotfile users will switch over.
188BET靠谱吗https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/104858/on-zotfile-development-and-zotero-7
https://github.com/wileyyugioh/zotmoov
188BET靠谱吗https://github.com/MuiseDestiny/zotero-attanger(Chrome's translation to English works well for the instructions)

188BET靠谱吗Note that Zotero does not support linked attachment files in Zotero Groups, the online web library, or the mobile apps.
188BET靠谱吗//www.brodersterzo.com/support/attaching_files#linked_files

*AFAIK currently there is no v7-compatible plugin to automate Zotfile's Send to Tablet functionality.188BET靠谱吗Of course you can do that manually with Zotero's mobile apps, for example by having one collection in which you keep items for that purpose: you would use Zotero's Tools\Manage Attachments\Convert Linked Files To Stored Files, to temporarily convert those items' linked attachments to local Zotero storage, which will then sync across your devices ...if File Syncing is kept set to ON and you are under your online file storage quota.

188BET靠谱吗If the cloud folder where you store your linked files is accessible on your mobile devices, you are also obviously able to read those files with any reader on those devices (outside Zotero).188BET靠谱吗Any annotations added in that reader will be seen in Zotero's viewer, as locked annotations.188BET靠谱吗They can then be imported to Zotero's database if desired.188BET靠谱吗But any annotations in the Zotero database will not be visible in those PDFs in an external reader (unless exported back to the PDF).
188BET靠谱吗//www.brodersterzo.com/support/kb/annotations_in_database

smokingduck

Thanks, that's really helpful!

金博宝世界杯体育赛事I don't need the groups/library/tablet as I will do all the actual work on the pdfs through devonthink.I only need a way to easily have all attachments moved to my onedrive folder (which is indexed by devonthink).

188BET靠谱吗I'm thinking of switching to Zotero version 7 now, since i am in early days and it's easier to switch now and get into the habit with the new system, instead of building a workflow with the old one and then relearning again.

couple of questions:

I couldn't tell the difference between zotmoov and attanger, how do I choose which one to use for the automatic attachment moving?

And do we know if the code of these plugins has been inspected from a security perspective?I'm always wary about installing executable files from an unknown source...

tim820

I haven't used attanger or zotmoov as I'm not using the v7 beta.188BET靠谱吗The core functionality of Zotfile is fairly simple: (1) automatic moving/renaming attachments downloaded by the Zotero web connector to the Zotfile Custom Location folder, and (2) a manual Rename&Move operation to do the same (eg for PDFs added in other ways).As far as I know, both plugins implement that, maybe in slightly different ways ?188BET靠谱吗Zotero v7 has improved its renaming functionality, which may obviate the need for a plugin to do that.

188BET靠谱吗One issue with linked attachment files is that they are not deleted by Zotero when you delete the item to which they belong.The usual workaround is the delitewithatt plugin.But it looks like the zotmoov plugin can do that itself.
https://github.com/redleafnew/delitemwithatt

188BET靠谱吗Zotero plugins are not EXE files, they're XPI files - the extension file format for Mozilla products (Zotero is based on Firefox).188BET靠谱吗They are loaded into Zotero, not executed externally.188BET靠谱吗AFAIK Zotero does not verify any extension before it is allowed to be added to Zotero (having a formal approval process might not be a bad idea, moving forward).188BET靠谱吗I am not aware of any plugin ever having done anything malicious (although I remember at least one serious bug), but nor whether there is anything in Zotero code to prevent that.
188BET靠谱吗//www.brodersterzo.com/support/plugins

dstillman

Plugins can do anything you can do on your computer (without a password).You should only install them if you trust the authors.

smokingduck

Thanks.188BET靠谱吗My understanding was that zotero plugins could in theory be a security risk, so I'm just trying to make sure I don't do anything silly...

The Attanger one doesn't seem to have documentation in English which makes it difficult to evaluate, but the developer seems to be active on github with lots of followers and produced other plugins.

The Zotmoov one has clear instructions, although the developer doesn't seem to have as much of an established presence.

Has anyone on this forum checked the code of these plugins (I don't have the expertise to do so myself) or have any advice if they are safe to install?