188BET靠谱吗Zotero 7 and Zotfile

guissoni

Hello,
188BET靠谱吗When I was using Zotero version 6, all the plugins were working perfectly, but yesterday, August 9th, I updated Zotero to version 7.It's very nice and functional, but all my plugins were disabled.I tried to reactivate them but it didn't work.188BET靠谱吗So I removed them and when I reinstalled the Zotfile plugin (version zotfile-5.1.2-fx.xpi) I got a message that this plugin is incompatible with Zotero 7.Is anyone else experiencing this?Is there an alternative to Zotfile?

tim820

188BET靠谱吗All plugins had to be re-written for Zotero v7.Some were not, including Zotfile.188BET靠谱吗The Zotfile-like plugins for Zotero v7 are zotmoov and attanger.Both provide similar support for linked attachment file handling.188BET靠谱吗Zotfile's enhanced file renaming is now provided by Zotero v7's enhanced capabilities.Neither plugin offers Zotfile's send-to-tablet feature.
https://github.com/wileyyugioh/zotmoov
188BET靠谱吗https://github.com/MuiseDestiny/zotero-attanger
188BET靠谱吗//www.brodersterzo.com/support/file_renaming#customizing_the_filename_format

samanthaculp

Hi @tim820188BET靠谱吗, if neither Zotmoov nor Attanger offers a "send to tablet" feature, is there any other plugin or method currently in Zotero 7 for me to easily send a given PDF/file to a Dropbox folder that I can access on my iPad, and then click to easily "retrieve" with its annotations, once I finish reading it?Or this is just something that died with Zotfile not being supported in Z7?
188BET靠谱吗Edit: OK I've added the Zotmoov plugin, and see that I can select a file and "Move to Selected Directory", which is useful - but is there any way to "retrieve" that file document once I've finished reading it and it gets added back to the right location within my Zotero library, and adds a note of the annotations I made on the document?This was a wonderful feature of Zotfile, it's a pity it's not replicated here.

dstillman

@samanthaculp: You're aware that there's a 188BET靠谱吗Zotero iOS app?You're already syncing files, so you can just use that and get the benefits of 188BET靠谱吗native Zotero annotations.

tim820

@samanthaculpZotmoov's "Move to Selected Directory" is just the equivalent of Zotfile's right-click Rename&Move (which moves a PDF to Zotfile's Custom Location folder).188BET靠谱吗Zotmoov's "Directory To Move Files to" (same as Custom Location folder) is also used when PDFs are downloaded by the Zotero web connector.

188BET靠谱吗Those PDF files were saved by Zotfile (before Zotero v7) as *linked* attachment files (which do not work with Groups, or the online web library, or the Zotero mobile apps) - Zotmoov annd Attanger do the same.That folder is typically a cloud-mirrored folder, like Dropbox, Google Drive, or Onedrive.
188BET靠谱吗//www.brodersterzo.com/support/attaching_files#linked_files

188BET靠谱吗So of course if your cloud folder is accessible on your mobile device, you can open a linked PDF file stored there into any *other* PDF reader on you mobile device, and annotate it (you just can't load a linked PDF into the Zotero mobile app).188BET靠谱吗You would *not* see any annotations that have already been added within Zotero, as they are not embedded in PDFs (unless you exported them to the PDF).188BET靠谱吗Then, back in Zotero on your computer, you would see the new annotations you added on you device (as 'locked' annotations), and you could import them into Zotero if you wish.

188BET靠谱吗The other way I can see of doing a manual version of Zotfiles' "Send To Tablet" for linked files - but which allows you to use the Zotero mobile app - would be to temporarily convert linked PDFs you want to work with on your mobile device to Zotero's standard *stored* files.You could have a collection named _Tablet_Items for example, to keep track of PDFs for use on your mobile device.188BET靠谱吗You would keep in that collection any items whose PDFs you wished to work with in the Zotero mobile app (they would of course also remain in any other collections to which they belong).188BET靠谱吗All items in that collection would be maintained as stored files (ie under Zotero\storage), using Zotero desktop's Tools\Manage Attachments\Convert Linked Files to Stored Files, for as long as you need to use them on your mobile device.188BET靠谱吗You would have Zotero File syncing turned ON.188BET靠谱吗So - as long as you are *under* your online file storage quota - Zotero would make those PDFs available in the online web library and also in the Zotero mobile app.When you finish working with a PDF, you would use zotmoov or attanger (right-click menu) to move it back to its linked file folder location.You would then remove the item from the _Tablet_Items collection.

samanthaculp

Thanks @dstillmanand @tim820for comments.188BET靠谱吗I've never used the Zotero iOS apps (for either iPhone or iPad) because it's always been buggy and crashes often.188BET靠谱吗I had a good workflow with Zotfile which was to select a given PDF, "send to tablet" (a folder on my Dropbox), access and read via PDF Expert, then "get from tablet" back in Zotero when I was done, and it would import with all the Annotations as a new note, etc.I'll continue to work with Zotmoov to try to replicate this.Thanks all

dstillman

188BET靠谱吗I've never used the Zotero iOS apps (for either iPhone or iPad) because it's always been buggy and crashes often

That's…not a normal thing that people report.If you're having trouble with something, you should actually report it here so we can fix it.You've never posted here with any problems about the iOS app.

I don't know the last time you tried the app, but I would strongly recommend you try it again.

gustms

@samanthaculp

188BET靠谱吗I use both the iOS and Android Zotero apps daily, and to be honest, never had any issues, especially with the iOS version since it has been officially released.It may be worth to give it a try again and see if the issues you had in the past are resolved.This way you will not have to deal with any potential alternative path to achieve what you are trying.

aramanujam

@tim820188BET靠谱吗, I implemented zotmoov as you described but is there a way to pull documents into zotero, rather than just manually copying/pasting?Maybe it's really obvious and I just don't know, but I'd also been using 'get from tablet' for this function.

tim820

@aramanijamit's not clear which of the two methods I outlined above you are using.So it's not exactly clear where you're hitting a problem.

188BET靠谱吗In the first method (2nd last para), your linked-file PDF attachment remains in its cloud folder all along, so it is still accessible there from Zotero desktop after use in an external PDF reader on your mobile device.

188BET靠谱吗In the second method (last para), converting a PDF from Zotero storage back to a linked PDF in Zotero desktop is described in that para.With zotmoov, you would use its right-click menu option below (similar to Zotfile's right-click Rename&Move).188BET靠谱吗You would then use Zotero's right-click Remove Item From Collection to remove it from your _Tablet_Items folder (or whatever you called it), since you no longer need to keep track of it that way.
188BET靠谱吗https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u5906489/jfqmxycr6odhq5wki98s.png

nes34

Hello everybody,
I used to use Zotfile to create an attachment file in Onedrive.Now I cannot use it as zotfile not available anymore.From our recommendations, ZotMoov also seems a good option.But my problem is
if I download Zootmoov will I need to rearrange all the files one by one or
will it automatically bring the same directory?

also when Zotfile will be available again?

tim820

@nes34188BET靠谱吗the (Onedrive) locations of your *existing* linked PDF attachment files are already stored in the Zotero database.188BET靠谱吗If you disabled Zotfile (under Zotero v6), they would still be located by Zotero when you ask it to open them.That does not rely on Zotfile - which will not be available again.So there is nothing with your existing linked PDF files to "rearrange".

188BET靠谱吗Under Zotero v7, you simply need a (new) plugin that will store *new* PDFs as linked files to that same folder.That plugin can be zotmoov or attanger, as mentioned above.

See also:
188BET靠谱吗https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/470754/#Comment_470754

Fontanapink

188BET靠谱吗So, I used to use Zotfile with Zotero 6.188BET靠谱吗Now, with Zotero 7, I am planning to use just the Zotero database.

188BET靠谱吗Do I need to re-link the files back to the original Zotero storage so that I can access them on iOS and the website?If so, how do I do that?

tim820

@Fontanapinkuse Tools\Manage Attachments\Convert Linked Files to Stored Files.金博宝世界杯体育赛事As long as you remain under your online storage quota and you have file syncing turned on, your attachment files will be synced to the web library, across computers, and to the mobile apps (and to any Groups you later add them to).

Fontanapink

thanks @tim820that is VERY clear.Do you know if I use a webDAV storage I will also be able to access the files in iOS?